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You point out the high value of personal integrity. I have to believe that is what is seen and remembered, long after the political battles have passed. I'm honored to have worked with you in two different institutions.

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Apr 3, 2023·edited Apr 3, 2023

I think that objective discourse here is best served by staying away from subjective statements that are not relevant to the topic. I noticed the piece says "Confederate statue that should have been long gone". This characterization is unnecessary and (in my view) dilutes the message of the piece. If one is preaching to the choir, it might not matter. I suppose the question is whether this piece is meant for the choir or a larger audience. Perhaps it is just meant for the choir.

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Principles matter. Leaders have to know their bright line lest they cross it.

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It seems various forms of dogma, counter dogma, power struggles and personality conflicts afflict higher education. To we in the public, sometimes the ruckus sounds a bit like high school on amphetamines. As a taxpayer, sometimes I regret that I am required to fund woke vs. anti-woke battles that are unlikely to ever be resolved.

Perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but what I'm hoping to hear from the editor of Science is reflection on our relationship with science.

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This is my personal Substack, but it is relevant to science. If we lose the ability to teach modern ideas in social science and the humanities, the ability to teach about climate, evolution, immunology is right behind.

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Thanks for your reply. Ok, good point. I will agree that it doesn't interest me that MAGA woke warriors should be running the universities. I've been in Gainesville FL my whole adult life, and Ron DeSatan is not popular here.

I'm not an academic, so I was more interested in your role as editor of Science. Just as there are woke dogmas, and anti-woke dogmas, it seems there are dogmas in science too, and that is of interest here.

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Science has everything to do with the ends of our experimentation, not just the means. The best scientists are those who have the bigger picture firmly in mind--including social goods.

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